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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (28)Posted:Jun 25, 2020-8:39 PM
By: BryonDavis(Member)

Got mine in the post today and il be surprised if no one has mentioned it yet but...this is a release of music from season 1 of the show and what stills do Varese put in the booklet?

Stills from season 2.

Doh!

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (34)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-5:29 AM
By: ryanpaquet(Member)

Got mine in the post today and il be surprised if no one has mentioned it yet but...this is a release of music from season 1 of the show and what stills do Varese put in the booklet?

Stills from season 2.

Doh!

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

Thanks for the update Bryon, this makes sense. I hope it's selling well! Happy to see it get coverage on The Second Disc yesterday too!

https://theseconddisc.com/2020/06/25/soundtrack-watch-quartets-new-thing-varese-dives-deep-with-seaquest-dsv-and-the-running-man/

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (40)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-11:12 AM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

I don't see this as an excuse at all. Personally, I appreciate the explanation. It makes all the difference. That's why I was hoping Ford would be able/willing to shed a little more definitive light on things too.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (47)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-2:21 PM
By: GOLDSMITHDAKING(Member)

Got mine in the post today and il be surprised if no one has mentioned it yet but...this is a release of music from season 1 of the show and what stills do Varese put in the booklet?

Stills from season 2.

Doh!

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

So for some reason they had the approval of every actor except the ones that did not appear in season 2?

And i find it hard to believe they were able to get the music for season 1 but no images.Also a little proofreading would have gone a long way.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (53)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-2:33 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

So for some reason they had the approval of every actor except the ones that did not appear in season 2?

And i find it hard to believe they were able to get the music for season 1 but no images

That's entirely possible. Stephanie Beacham (Dr. Westphalen) and Stacy Haiduk (Lt. Hitchco*ck) both quit the show when it relocated to Florida for season two. The rest of the non-returning cast was let go because NBC wanted to go younger. That kind of experience may have left a bad taste in their mouths. And if even one of them politely said "piss off" to likeness approvals (or maybe not politely...who knows), that nixes any full crew photos.

Music has nothing to do with the actors and actresses.

Also a little proofreading would have gone a long way.

Agreed. It isn't difficult to attribute tracks to the correct episodes.

When I tag my tracks in MP3 on TV shows, I always put the episode title first so I know where I'm at musically (e.g. - "Knight of Shadows: The Possession of Kristin"). I know there's at least one board member here who likes to have episode-specific art for each track (probably for reasons similar to mine).

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (58)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-2:56 PM
By: BryonDavis(Member)

Got mine in the post today and il be surprised if no one has mentioned it yet but...this is a release of music from season 1 of the show and what stills do Varese put in the booklet?

Stills from season 2.

Doh!

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

So for some reason they had the approval of every actor except the ones that did not appear in season 2?

And i find it hard to believe they were able to get the music for season 1 but no images.Also a little proofreading would have gone a long way.

That is not how it works. Studios work with preapproved stills for media etc. Anything not preapproved has to get new approvals. Believe me, don't believe me. We got a few b&w photos in that set strangely.

I will repeat this. The older the show, the less likely studios have a ton of assets to use. We wanted to use an image of an actor from a cancelled show on a prior project. The actors rep said no. Another project the actor wanted 5000 dollars for a photo not preapproved. On another the actor wanted 10k.

This release was a four year journey. We are hoping to do a volume 2.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (63)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-2:59 PM
By: Seajay4600(Member)

Got mine in the post today and il be surprised if no one has mentioned it yet but...this is a release of music from season 1 of the show and what stills do Varese put in the booklet?

Stills from season 2.

Doh!

I can assure you there weren't many photos to use for this. Studios give labels a group of approved stills. Anything outside of that means getting actor/estate approvals which can take forever to approve for a show that is off the air. Not making excuses but just educating.

So for some reason they had the approval of every actor except the ones that did not appear in season 2?

And i find it hard to believe they were able to get the music for season 1 but no images.Also a little proofreading would have gone a long way.

That is not how it works. Studios work with preapproved stills for media etc. Anything not preapproved has to get new approvals. Believe me, don't believe me. We got a few b&w photos in that set strangely.

I will repeat this. The older the show, the less likely studios have a ton of assets to use.

I absolutely love this set and I hope we get to see future volumes with other seasons at some point! Keep em coming!!!

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (69)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-3:22 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

That is not how it works. Studios work with preapproved stills for media etc. Anything not preapproved has to get new approvals. Believe me, don't believe me. We got a few b&w photos in that set strangely.

I will repeat this. The older the show, the less likely studios have a ton of assets to use. We wanted to use an image of an actor from a cancelled show on a prior project. The actors rep said no. Another project the actor wanted 5000 dollars for a photo not preapproved. On another the actor wanted 10k.

This release was a four year journey. We are hoping to do a volume 2.

Thank you for the in-depth explanation, Byron. It is very much appreciated.

Some of those prices are absolutely crazy! Hollywood is a strange, strange place sometimes, it seems. I'll admit: it's surprising that a Spielberg show doesn't have a lot of materials to use, but that's just my layman's perception.

I truly hope the sales are strong enough for a second volume. I'd love to see Season 2 material get covered. Judging from the response to the music on this thread, it's a safe bet you've already got some locked-in sales The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (70)

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (75)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-3:24 PM
By: Ado(Member)

I am waiting on mine, but I did get my 3 Season set BluRay, I have not watch hardly any yet, but the little I saw, it was like a calming salve of good feelings coming over me, I know it was not a perfect show, but still -

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (81)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-3:35 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

This release was a four year journey. We are hoping to do a volume 2.

I do have one last question though, Bryon. Maybe you can answer it. Maybe you can't (for one reason or another)...

The TV version of the main theme (with the chorus).

If this was a four year project, then I can't imagine that leaving it off the set was an oversight. Was there a legal/royalties/etc. issue that kept it from being remastered and included?

Honestly, the old one from Google, iTunes, etc. just doesn't cut it quality-wise next to this set. Hopefully it can get included on Volume 2 *fingers crossed*

Again, thank you for the insight into the process.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (87)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-3:54 PM
By: Yavar Moradi(Member)

Hey JGouse, I don't know if you're maybe a victim of autocorrect on this, but his name is "Bryon" (like maybe a spelling variant of "Brian"? I'm not certain). Not "Byron", the famous British poet (and lover, lol...)

Yavar

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (93)Posted:Jun 26, 2020-4:02 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

Hey JGouse, I don't know if you're maybe a victim of autocorrect on this, but his name is "Bryon" (like maybe a spelling variant of "Brian"? I'm not certain). Not "Byron", the famous British poet (and lover, lol...)

Yavar

Umm...oops...I guess? Duly noted.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (98)Posted:Jun 27, 2020-3:01 PM
By: GoblinScore(Member)

My RUNNING MAN stopped by today.

A glance at the notes show "8 DX-7s" used for the Sub-Zero music, linked through a Yamaha piece of Midi gear.

If I could post a field of hearts like a teenage girl here...I would. But Madrelbot (SIC) would chastise me....

If you REALLY want excellent VS/Naxos packaging....buy a vinyl in your order. Secure as hell, my package today from Spring Cleaning that included two vinyls.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (103)Posted:Jun 30, 2020-4:37 PM
By: Roger Feigelson(Member)

My copy seems to be lost. It left San Francisco 6 days ago to make the arduous 15-mile trek to my town. I'll give it another couple of weeks to show up. In the meantime this release poses a dilemma -- I don't know the show at all. But I loved the original release and had it on my list of titles I wanted to see expanded. So now it is! But...can I take it off my expansion list now? Or are there still volumes of music worth releasing? More of the same would get tiresome and I don't need every note if this release really is a sufficient representation. A representation I'm dying to here!! But if it's like Orville, where yes the 2-CD set is great, but we desperately need season two released, then I'll keep it on my list.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (108)Posted:Jun 30, 2020-4:45 PM
By: henry(Member)

My copy seems to be lost. It left San Francisco 6 days ago to make the arduous 15-mile trek to my town. I'll give it another couple of weeks to show up. In the meantime this release poses a dilemma -- I don't know the show at all. But I loved the original release and had it on my list of titles I wanted to see expanded. So now it is! But...can I take it off my expansion list now? Or are there still volumes of music worth releasing? More of the same would get tiresome and I don't need every note if this release really is a sufficient representation. A representation I'm dying to here!! But if it's like Orville, where yes the 2-CD set is great, but we desperately need season two released, then I'll keep it on my list.

Hi Roger! I hope you receive your copy soon, that's frustrating I know. I ordered a cd from Japan back in early April and I finally received it last week, I never thought I'd get it. I know yours didn't have as far to go, but hang in there. At least yours isn't an out of print title.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (114)Posted:Jun 30, 2020-4:47 PM
By: The Mutant(Member)

Hang in there, Roger. My last shipment from them took over a month. I’m still waiting for Running Man too.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (120)Posted:Jun 30, 2020-4:55 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

My copy seems to be lost. It left San Francisco 6 days ago to make the arduous 15-mile trek to my town. I'll give it another couple of weeks to show up. In the meantime this release poses a dilemma -- I don't know the show at all. But I loved the original release and had it on my list of titles I wanted to see expanded. So now it is! But...can I take it off my expansion list now? Or are there still volumes of music worth releasing? More of the same would get tiresome and I don't need every note if this release really is a sufficient representation. A representation I'm dying to here!! But if it's like Orville, where yes the 2-CD set is great, but we desperately need season two released, then I'll keep it on my list.

I can say that the music on Disc 2 is definitely not repetitive. This is a well-curated album. Also, realistically, I can't see there being more than two volumes for this show. Therefore, I'd say this release is a good representation of Debney. Volume 2 will hopefully be a good representation for Don Davis' music. If there IS a third volume, then that should be the Russ Landau album.

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And I wish you the best of luck in your order finding its way to you!

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (126)Posted:Jul 1, 2020-8:59 AM
By: Roger Feigelson(Member)

My copy seems to be lost. It left San Francisco 6 days ago to make the arduous 15-mile trek to my town. I'll give it another couple of weeks to show up. In the meantime this release poses a dilemma -- I don't know the show at all. But I loved the original release and had it on my list of titles I wanted to see expanded. So now it is! But...can I take it off my expansion list now? Or are there still volumes of music worth releasing? More of the same would get tiresome and I don't need every note if this release really is a sufficient representation. A representation I'm dying to here!! But if it's like Orville, where yes the 2-CD set is great, but we desperately need season two released, then I'll keep it on my list.

I can say that the music on Disc 2 is definitely not repetitive. This is a well-curated album. Also, realistically, I can't see there being more than two volumes for this show. Therefore, I'd say this release is a good representation of Debney. Volume 2 will hopefully be a good representation for Don Davis' music. If there IS a third volume, then that should be the Russ Landau album.

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And I wish you the best of luck in your order finding its way to you!

Thank you. Kind of similar to the animated Batman. I think Shirley Walker's Mask of the Phantasm is magnificent. And the LaLaLand expansion stunning. And the 2-CDs worth of music on vol. 1 of the animated series is fantastic. But when I put on vol. 2 I felt unmotivated. Not that there's anything wrong with the music, but I assumed I was just saturated at that point. So I stuck with Phantasm and Vol. 1.

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (133)Posted:Jul 1, 2020-7:00 PM
By: JGouse0498(Member)

Thank you. Kind of similar to the animated Batman. I think Shirley Walker's Mask of the Phantasm is magnificent. And the LaLaLand expansion stunning. And the 2-CDs worth of music on vol. 1 of the animated series is fantastic. But when I put on vol. 2 I felt unmotivated. Not that there's anything wrong with the music, but I assumed I was just saturated at that point. So I stuck with Phantasm and Vol. 1.

You're quite welcome.

And I completely get what you're saying. With LLL's very generous sale, I went a little overboard on the Star Trek sets (everything except the TOS set and the 50th Anniversary). It's great music, but after a while I start to forget what I'm listening to at any given moment. Sometimes, it feels like a chore trying to get through the playlist, which is a horrible thing to feel about Trek music! The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (134)

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The Running Man & Seaquest DSV (140)Posted:Jul 2, 2020-6:09 AM
By: ryanpaquet(Member)

Or are there still volumes of music worth releasing? More of the same would get tiresome and I don't need every note if this release really is a sufficient representation. A representation I'm dying to here!! But if it's like Orville, where yes the 2-CD set is great, but we desperately need season two released, then I'll keep it on my list.

I would say it's very similar to the Orville - I specifically bought the Orville album because I thought it sounded like seaQuest!

Davis wrote some great stuff in season 1 including an emmy nomiated score, and an Emmy winning score for Season 2.

Debney also had some additional great moments in season 1 - personally I'd love the Debney score for the finale of S1.

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